Michael's response to Thomas...

Bogger's note: Not since the days of Jefferson and Adams have Americans had such quality discourse. I believe it reflects the conversations people all around the country want to have; and if we are to grow closer to decisions, they are discussions we must have; but most don't have the words or the courage needed.

I suppose I have to get their permission to publish these in book form ....but they are worthy of print.

Neither my brother, Thomas, nor Michael are men who take things lightly. Each lives what he believes and each is a great man. Please read both men's writings with this is mind.

I disagree with each, about some fundementals, but the issues they are bold enough to discuss are too important to put away now that the election is over. We put away our divisions. We have one President; one Commander and Chief ; but not one view. I know that Michael is leading his family in actively lifting up President and Mrs. Obama in prayer daily; that he will offer his service to a government led by President Obama and that he will train his children to respect the process by which a solid majority of American's chose the man who will lead this administration.

Please read with this vantage point:

Walli Carranza, PhD

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From an email received 1-24-09 from Michael Stolle/Texas

Dear Tom,

Walli has spoken well of you many times as I remember. You are much loved by her.

You are right that Barack Obama was very clear on his position regarding these issues. But I disagree that the majority American endorse his views. I think that many of those who voted for him didn't believe he would go as far as he has or will.

I did not vote him because I believed he would. I'm simply pointing out to those who may be in denial that the hen has come to roost. That those who believed his rhetoric about his being "Prolife" are already being proven wrong.

You say no one is "Pro Abortion". I guess it depends on what you mean by Pro-abortion. Who I call Pro-abortion is anyone who supports the right to abort a human unborn baby is pro-abortion. This would not (of course) include the case of a tubal pregnancy, where the baby can't live and the mothers life is physically in danger because of the abnormal pregnancy. On the contrary current poles show that the majority of Americans do not believe abortion is OK. Even if it were true that the majority believed that murder is OK does that mean that we should legalize murder? Of course not. Since a baby's life begins at conception then since abortion ends that life, it is by definition murder. My point is, the number of people who support abortion has nothing to do with whether abortion should be legal or not. Since it is murder it should not be legal regardless of how many people agree with it.

Regarding Bush's refusal to use embryonic stem cells, it was both moral and ethical and based not on science or politics but based on the premise that no good can come from evil, the evil of using the stem cells from embryoes resulting in the death of the unborn baby. This is basic Catholic tenet, evil can not be done to bring about good. No matter how much good it might bring.

Even if one of my children had some disease that could be healed by the results of these stem cells I could not be for it. President Bush chose the higher road, the higher good. I commend him for his fortitude to make such a tough decision.

Regarding Obama's not being governor of Illinois, good catch. I stand corrected, however, he was senator to Illinois and he did never the less vote against a bill that would have given aid to those fortunate to survive an abortion. what you appear to be saying is because that baby was intended to die by abortion, it MUST NOT live. Since it is now legally born, leaving it to die, is infanticide. Have you ever heard the cry of a baby who is hungry or hurting? How can any refuse the care of that baby. This is why I say he must have a cold heart.

The US Constitution does NOT support Roe v. Wade. That supreme court decision was a travesty of justice of which many legal experts today agree was a bad decision poorly arrived at.

You talk about the separation of church and state. This phrase is found no where in the constiitution. It is found, I believe in the writings of Thomas Jefferson. If you read what he said you would see that the present day understanding of the concept of separation of church and state is no where near what he was talking about. Basically he was saying that the government should not be setting up its own denomination that it has control over. In fact the constitution guarantees the right to practice our faith anywhere. It does not guarantee freedom from religion which is what those who say separation of church and state would have us believe. Prayer and faith based decisions are found throughout the writings of the founding fathers and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit was sought after at the beginning of all the proceedings conducted during the architecture of our form of government.

As for the gay agenda to indoctrinate our children being offensive to you, I apologize, though I'm not sure what it was that offended you. I was stating a fact about their agenda. You can go to their website and find it there yourself. I didn't say they plan to make all the children gay, I said they want teach the children that the gay lifestyle is good and OK and natural. I understand and acknowledge that some people have a disordered tendency for same sex attraction. The fact there are many people who have these tendencies does not make the acting out of these tendencies (ie. lifestyle) OK. It is grave sin, pure and simple. I sympathize with those who struggle daily with all disordered tendencies, but they need to be encouraged to stay in the battle daily rather than given free reign to there fleshly desires. Jesus Christ made it clear that inordinate sexual desires need to be brought under control. It is God's word that says that the practice of homosexual acts is sin just as promiscuity is sin. This is born out both in the old testament and the new. If you would like the passages, I will give them to you. Just let me know.

I don't know if you are Catholic and if you are a practicing Catholic, but you must know that the church has consistently held that the practice of homosexuality is a grave sin. Notice, I emphasize the practice of homosexuality. It is not sin to have the tendency. There are many who have been freed from this tendency. Many have participated in a program called "Courage" and I would invite you anyone who suffers from this tendency to check it out. Again even if the majority of American were active in the gay lifestyle, it doesn't change the fact that it is a grave sin. There are times when Christ calls each of us to suffer in reparation for sins of the world, to die to self and so doing bring souls out of purgatory. Each of these issues regards a suffering party. Christ is calling us to transform suffering to bring forth saints. This is the only explanation that makes any sense for the suffering of good people (and not so good too).

Tom, I wish all the best for you and I will keep you in my prayers,

Take care,

Michael